William Martin

Abt 1759 -

• Name	William Martin  [1, 2]
  Birth	Abt 1759	Harrow, Middlesex, England
  Gender	Male
  Person ID	I11397	Main
  Last Modified	9 Sep 2016

  
  

  Father	John Martin,   b. Abt 1727, Harrow, Middlesex, England
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Mary Down,   b. Abt 1730
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	23 Aug 1752	Fleet Prison, London, England
  Family ID	F3308	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Catherine Steptoe,   b. Abt 1761, Northolt, Middlesex, England
  Marriage	24 Aug 1783	Marylebone, Middlesex, England
  Children	1. William Martin,   b. Abt 1786, Roxeth, Middlesex, England  [natural]   2. Mary Martin,   b. Abt 1789, Harrow, Middlesex, England d. Abt 06 Jun 1790, Harrow, Middlesex, England (Age 1 year)  [natural]   3. Mary Martin,   b. Abt 1794, Greenford, Middlesex, England d. Abt 15 Feb 1880, Northolt, Middlesex, England (Age 86 years)  [natural]   4. John Martin,   b. Abt 1784, Greenhill, Harrow, Middlesex  [natural]
  Family ID	F2738	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	9 Sep 2016

  
  

  Family 2	Mary Down
  Marriage	23 Aug 1752	London, England   [2]
  Family ID	F3687	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	9 Sep 2016

  
  

• Notes

  My parental argument for Mary Martin Mary marries James Harwood in 1813. Allowing her to be around 20 at the time that gives her a date of birth of about 1793. Later census records show her to have been born around that date or perhaps 1794. Checking all the records as best I can for the surrounding parishes the biggest cluster of Martin's is in Harrow. The borders of Harrow and Greenford are next to each other and also border Northolt. I have also checked Ealing and there is a lack of Martin's there although some. Five Mary's could be our Mary. Mary d of William and Catherine baptised 10 5 1789 St Mary Harrow. A bit early but possible until you check the burials. She is buried 6 6 1790. Mary Martin daughter of Daniel & Sarah baptised 8 5 1791 but also dies buried 3 12 1793. Mary d of John and Patience baptised Pinner 4 1 1789. Further away and a bit early. Mary d of ? & Ann baptised 1 9 1782 Ealing. Too old. Four Mary's discounted. Wait for it. William and Catherine have another daughter baptised Mary 31 3 1793. No record that I can find of a burial. It would appear that she survives. Date is right within a good degree of tolerance bearing in mind the education of the day and we are talking about ordinary labourers. The location is also good Harrow and Northolt being next to each other. It is possible that the family may have worked in Greenford when she was young and that it is Greenford she remembered. It also ties in with Northolt well. Based upon this theory I believe that our Mary is highly like to be the daughter of William and Catherine and therefore part of the Martin family living in Harrow. The last Siblings of Mary I can trace is Joseph bap 7 5 1797 Harrow.and Sarah baptised 1800. Mark Keeper's theory Firstly, your theory regarding James and Sarah. I have checked the original registers in the past and some more recently on Ancestry. The only Martin baptism's I have found are those below. Mary, daughter of Thomas and Anne Martin baptised 19th July 1753 in Greenford James, son of James and Sarah Martin baptised 14th September 1794 in Greenford James, son of James and Sarah Martin baptised 27th May 1798 in Greenford Ann daughter of Sarah Martin base born baptised 31st March 1805 in Greenford. I also found a baptism for a Sarah born 1803 base daughter Sarah Martin in Greenford buried 1804.If the Sarah having children in 1803 & 1805 is the same as married to James it indicates he is dead. However the entry for 1803 shows father unknown. I think it unlikely that Sarah is the same as having children with James. That weakens your Ann married to James Little argument. Also James and Sarah are baptising children at the time our Mary should have been born and the 1794 birth of James is right when Mary would be born according to the census. Again I think this suggests that James and Sarah are not Mary's parents.

  
  

• Sources

  [S46] Ancestry.com, London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), London Metropolitan Archives, Saint John the Baptist, Pinner, Composite register: baptisms May 1743 - Dec 1812, marriages Nov 1747 - Feb 1749, DRO/008/A/01, Item 003. Record for William Martin [S48] Ancestry.com, London, England, Clandestine Marriage and Baptism Registers, 1667-1754, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013;).